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Kurt Cobain : Kurt was not suicidal

Kurt was not suicidal

  2004.08.20. 23:39

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                           KURT WAS NOT SUICIDAL

When Kurt returned to Seattle after the Rome incident:

"I saw Kurt the day he got back from Rome.  He was really upset about all the attention it got in the media."
Carlson didn't notice anything abnormal about Cobain's health or behaviour.  Like many of Cobain's friends,
he regrets that neither Cobain nor anyone else told him that Rome had been a suicide attempt. (Dylan
Carlson talking about Kurt, Cobain by the editors of Rolling Stone, p 90).

Dylan, remembering Kurt on March 30th, when they bought the gun:

"He seemed normal.....we'd been talking". (Cobain by the Editors of Rolling
Stone p 83).

"At the time (they went to buy the gun, 30 March 1994,) Kurt definitely wasn't
suicidal or I would never have bought the gun. He was my best friend. I would
have known if Rome was a suicide. No way. A year earlier I would have
believed it because of the pain, but he wasn't talking like that anymore. He was
making all kinds of plans for when he got back from rehab." (Dylan Carlson
WKKC? p 91).

"Kurt was facing lots of pretty heavy things but he was actually pretty upbeat.
He was prepared to deal with things facing him." (Dylan talking to the Seattle
Post Intelligencer April 15 1994).

Dylan Carlson, Kurt's best friend.

In the summer of 1993, Kurt experienced what he called " a miracle".  After years of consulting specialists
about his debilitating stomach pain, he found a doctor who finally diagnosed the problem---a pinched nerve
relating to his scoliosis.  Once the problem was diagnosed, it became treatable and Kurt finally rid himself of
his daily agony. From this point on, many people detected a change in Kurt's personality; "Kurt became a
new person after that.  He stopped retreating into the dark side that everybody came to associate with him
and actually seemed cheerful.  Part of it was Frances, I think, but the stomach thing was the most
important".  (Dylan Carlson WKKC? p 86).

"I never knew (Kurt) to be suicidal, I just knew that he was going through a really
tough time." (Mark Lanegan, Cobain by the editors of Rolling Stone  p 90)

To Cobain's friend Mark Lanegan Kurt was " an amazing guy, a complete
gentleman". (Sandford, p 340).

"The thing you have to remember about all the talk of Kurt being suicidal is that all
the talk only started when Courtney came out after the death and said Rome was a
suicide attempt and the media picked up on all her examples of Kurt being suicidal.

That's when all these people started saying,'Of course he was suicidal, just listen to his music.' But that's a
bunch of crap. Sure he was a moody guy and got depressed quite often. That applies to a hell of a lot of
people, including me. But nobody ever talked about Kurt being suicidal before he died, Nobody. Why do
you think everybody who knew him was so surprised when Courtney said that Rome was a suicide
attempt? I've read all this ignorant bullshit in the media pointing to the fact that Kurt wanted to call In utero
'I Hate Myself and I Want to Die.' It was a joke, for chrissake. That was his warped sense of humour. He
was the most sarcastic guy you'll ever meet. He was not suicidal, at least not when I knew him, and I knew
him for the last year of his life."  (Peter Cleary, a friend of Kurt's from Seattle. Wallace and Halperin's
WKKC? p 92)

" He and Courtney hadn't been getting along.  The only thing keeping them together was Frances, but Kurt
had been talking of a divorce and trying to get custody."  (Peter Cleary WKKC? p 87).

Buzzcocks supported Nirvana in Feb 1994. Bassist Tony Barber told the Maker, "I know he was not
taking drugs on that tour. He was walking around drinking Evian water and looking clean every time I saw
him. He didn't seem to consider himself a star...He seemed like a shy bloke who didn't have many friends.
Often when I was talking to him, I felt like saying something like, "Look, if you need a mate just to go for a
drink with or anything, I'm here." And then I came home last night and saw it on the news. I couldn't
believe it. It's just so sad. (Melody Maker's April 16 1994 edition).

Pete Shelley vocalist and guitarist, "He seemed really clean when we were on tour. In some ways it was a
bit awkward because he wasn't really joining in the very mild debauchery that went on." (Melody Maker,
April 16 1994.)

Joe Mama visited Kurt at the Exodus rehab on April 1 1994, He said:

"I was ready to see him looking like shit and depressed. He looked so fucking great." (Cobain by the
editors of Rolling Stone p 83.  Also see M. Rossi's Queen of Noise p 193)

Rosemary Carroll friend of Kurt and Courtney, and also their lawyer in a conversation with Grant:

"Kurt wasn't suicidal Tom.  He wasn't suicidal".  (Wallace and Halperin's WKKC? p 119).

Charles Peterson, photographer and associate of Kurt:

"What sticks in my mind is actually running into him on the street about 2 weeks um, before he, he killed
himself. And it was just, you know, I guess in relation to events, I'm glad that I did, I'm glad that I saw
him. We talked and he, we exchanged phone numbers and he was really happy about the fact the book,
my book of photographs that I'm doing, he was like; 'Alright, at last,' you know, 'get the real thing.' And
he was- we chatted and he was concerned about my wife's illness and just really, you know, that sticks in
my mind." (From the Nirvana Teen Spirit video).

His paternal grandmother, Iris Cobain, said "everything seemed fine" when she and her husband last talked
to Cobain in late March, "We never really asked him about Rome, he said it was just an accident."  In that
last conversation, Cobain confirmed plans to go fishing in April with his grandfather.  "When he talked to
me he seemed happy,"  Iris Cobain said.  (Seattle Times May 11 1994).

Dr Osvaldo Galletta who treated Kurt in Rome after the Rome incident:
"The last image I have of him, which in the light of the tragedy now seems pathetic, is of a young man
playing with the little girl (Frances). He did not seem like a young man who wanted to end it all." (Grant
website).

Cobain spent two days at the 20-bed clinic (Exodus.) He talked to several psychologists there, none of
whom considered him suicidal. (Cobain by the editors of Rolling Stone p 83).

On Feb 21st 1994, Kurt was thinking in terms of the stories he wanted to tell his grandchildren.
He was looking forward to having grandchildren.  He wasn't suicidal.  This can be found on the
bootleg video of the Feb 21st 1994 concert at Modena, Italy.

Courtney wanted everyone to believe that Kurt was suicidal with an out of control drug
dependency in the last days of his life. But when Kurt's body was found Krist Novoselic responded
to the news of Kurt's supposed suicide as follows:

"smack was just a small part of his life."

Novoselic said he did not understand his friend's behavior. "I don't have it all figured out right now," he
said. (Seattle Post Intelligencer, April 14 1994).

Those aren't the reactions one would expect if Novoselic believed Kurt was suicidal/drug dependent/
planned to kill himself.

 
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